[hist-analytic] Carnap and Grice on (alleged) "necessary truth"
Jlsperanza at aol.com
Jlsperanza at aol.com
Tue Mar 2 18:24:17 EST 2010
In a message dated 3/2/2010 rbj at rbjones.com writes:
"Well this sounds interesting stuff, but it veers at the end too close to
treating the analyticity as being something we decide upon by fiat, which is
how Quine would have us think of it, but not how Carnap does and even less
how he should! (You have to decide meaning and accept the extension of
analyticity which flows from it, and its best to present the matter so as to
make that clear, which Carnap often does not
do)."
Necessary truths? Or rather at most 'empirical generalisations over
functional states' that a philosopher may reflect on? Carnap and Grice on the
Yerkes-Dodson Law. So, this is Carnap and Grice on empirical psychology versus
rational psychology, say, and the role of 'necessary truth' or analytic
truth, in things involving 'beliefs', etc. Re the 'form' of a psychological
law, I think I was referring to things like this by Grice in "Conception of
Value" Gr91 -- google.books, "But whether or not the Yerkes- Dodson Law is
properly so-called, it is certainly 'law-allusive'; and the feature of being
law-allusive is one which I would ..." This goes back to p. 124 of that
book, where Grice wonders about such 'laws', i.e. postulates from a Theory --
Symbolise it by Theta. Some relevant quotes by Grice:
"Are we go give them contingent or non-contingent status?" Consider "He who
wills the end, wills the means" Is this NOT REFUTABLE? So it seems. We
observe Toby, he wills the end, but does not will the means. Therefore, we
conclude, Grice says, "Toby did not REALLY will the end". This, Grice says,
means to treat the law as a "necessary truth" -- his collocation. But if
it's "a psychological law" is SHOULD be 'contingent'. This is what he
formulates as a problem. In general terms, "How (without a blanket rejection of the
analytic/synthetic distinction) we [are] to account for, and if possible,
resolve, the ambivalence concerning their status with which we seem to look
upon certain principles involving psychological concepts."
There are major issues here: the idea is indeed that '...
judges...', "... assserts...", "...believes..." (to use the ones Carnap was more
involved with) are _psychological THEORETICAL concepts". Thus their meaning is
given by Theta, a theory. A theory comprises only 'contingent truths'. So
what role is A-truth supposed to play there. If we formalise the language of
psychology (empirical pyschology) no such truths seem required. It's only
when it comes to what Grice calls "rational psychology" (or 'philosophical
psychology' simpliciter). Because as such, it's a game (applied game) to
see generalisations philosophers want to consider regarding desiderata,
self-entrenched, if you wish, as to want count as having a 'rational belief'.
Since Carnap did expand on 'rational choice' theory in his probability work on
subjective probability that occupied his mind, they say, for most of the
last decade or so of his life, if not more -- to the detriment of other
topics that Carnpians and neo-Carnapians would have him rather treat) he may
have said something on this, too, I hope. I woud think the compromise
Carnap/Grice at this point would be to concede Carnap that NOTHING in empirical
psychology is a necessary truth and that something MAY be a necessary truth
(if pressed, but why would WE be pressed, since it's all so 'caeteris
paribus' anyway) in _rational_ psychology. In fact, my leader in this is B. Loar
in his "Meaning and Mind" where he has the lovely cheek to say that a
Gricean maxim such as "Say the truth" boils down to merely (if you allow me the
split) an "empirical generalisation over functional states"! (and right he
is -- the point is that a philosopher -- or some of them, call them
"Grice" in his best moments (?) may want to say it is _more_ than that? (The
problem is so constructivist it hurts, but in a nice way!)
Grice would, I would think, be happy with 'necessary truth' being 'alleged'
in a case like "he who wills the end, wills the end'. It seems NOT a
necessary truth. To add, 'necessary' brings a 'conceptual' ring to it that makes
it immune to refutation. We don't want that. Rather, we want to elaborate
on 'alleged'. If that's read as "rationally _deemed_" then it is surely
compatible with the thing _being_ an "empirical generalisation over functional
states" which "passes rational muster" (to use G/W's phrase in PGRICE).
Etc.
Cheers,
J. L. Speranza
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